SmokeyD wrote:I appreciate the idea of Magic not being decernable for advanced science, but that is a 'better sell' for the religious peoples of Richard Alpert's time... "We" (Contempories) are completely capabable of accepting science as an explanantion. TPTB didn't need to explain the science in detail 'pre se', but at least acknowledge that there was a clockwork behind the 'golden shower'...
Well that depends on what
the writers really wanted LOST to be about. IMO a person can deduce some mechanisms with the Island, as not all people presented in the FS move on with each other. This in itself suggests symmatics. Light and Water are good physical ways to mirror it's own metaphor, because they are things seen, but they are not solid, they are moving, ever changing, shapeshifting---as evolution is. The time of albert is actually more like the time of today as alchemy is fringe science of the past and they (like Newton) had the understanding that human nature and nature where entangled not seperating science from philiosphy as to "know" is a human drive--so science is us pushing to understand it allowing us to create tools (technology) in which we decide for what purpose we us the tools for...but in that sense those decisions come from how we feel (something unseen) about our experiences...
Even in FRINGE we go back to the belief of the alchemists as the first people had technology that is considered 'advanced' by both universes (and the viewers) 2010 standard, which may be a nod to "astronaut theory", depending if First people really derive from either universe, or if they time traveled there...
So with LOT just because you can not "fully" see it, doesn't mean it's not there.
IMO FRINGE actually explains what LOST and Alias didn't in the physical sense.--That you can take what FRINGE teaches you about timelines and apply it to the nature of the Island or Rambaldi. But the writers of LOST chose to make the show more about the spiritual developement of a specific group of people, but it is the spiritual 'unseen nature' (like essence or conscieness) that drives the physical mechanics of the Island...it's that nature that is 'along side' humanity always...and in the corporeal, people have to push themselves to save themselves, through the Island (this is what the smoke monster does) so they can "go" some place better-some-when, later, but the need is comes from this transition astral plane that is connectet to the corporeal experience.
Fringe may be backwards to that concept, as it directly presents that the physical-corporeal is effecting their innate-experience, however FRINGE has not yet proven if there are limitations of course corrections of timelines, because we don't have enough time and spaces (realities and each's histories) to prove if they both derive at course corrections, but it is clear that each of the 2 realities seen, show some kind of dynamic of patterns between them...
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WJames wrote:DarthLocke wrote:The 'heart of the Island' would be considered advanced technology by modern standard.
Nope! And the giant dildo thingy that has to be inserted into the island's but*hole to make it all work is not good writing.
Ok light is essence, but it is also electromagnitism--the island has pockets of it everywhere. Lost made a connection that this electromagnetic force is "the god partical" . like with all things living, one can use it in certain ways, but the catch was the mythology was dual natured so that the good particle was also the same particle of actual essence and or consciencness. It suggests that the inner nature of "collected" perception is the driving force of the corporeal. 'the sub conscience rules all and brings things to the surface...in one life time or another. The goal was to eventually find a better place. Once can deduce that the FS offered a window into that possibility, but they had to let go of their memory of the most current 'past' to move on to that place and that it was experience of them being together -struggling together, that eventually pushes 'groups of people' to place of less struggling...that is what the Island does and it why it can tie all varitions of magor theologies and philosophies because we are variating, because that is what evolution does and thus our ever changing understanding of it.
I do have faith in these guys and don't plan to quit watching anytime soon. I just hate that the story line had to go the route of a pregnancy and couldn't use some other plot device to bring Peter back to his old universe. I feel that tptb have tried to change what we saw from the beginning of the season with the red universe and it's militaristic Fringe unit. Now the Red Fringe team seems more like a bunch of school kids joking around. We still see fun sides of our Fringe division but at least they aren't acting like this! 
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